Thank you.

Just read a post in http://www.reallifeleed.com/ that there is a discussion for LEED 2012 to do exactly that. Getting the AP ID point for a project means you need the right sort of AP for that specific rating system.

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MR5 is doubling, 10%-20% is double, 20%-40% is double. A strange kind of doubling, but thats what helps me remember its increments.

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Probably should post your MR question in one of the MR forums (if you haven’t already). I’ll try to answer it here quickly: If you use chairs made from recycled material, you can use the cost of the chair against the cost of all materials for MRc4. BUT you have to use the cost of the chairs in the other credits as well, whether or not they meet the requirements of the other credits (MRc3,5,6,7).

‘Designer’ is a generic term for the role designing a system. Mechanical Engineer is a ‘designer’ for the ventilation; Landscape Architect may be the ‘designer’ for vegetation tasks; Civil Engineer is the ‘designer’ for the stormwater management tasks. The term architect is more specific to the tasks of designing the building layout efficiency, windows, doors, exterior materials, etc, having to do with the functional ‘look and feel’ of the building. IOW, architect is a subset of designer.

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This makes sense in the spirit of recycling, since the material gets more use before being recycled if it is post-consumer, and I think that is why it is tallied this way.

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green exam prep is claiming an extra ID point for WEc3.2 – 10% reduction in process and non-regulated water use.

Is this accurate, I know green exam prep has missed things before.

Please forgive me if this topic has already been discussed.

TRC is Total Recycled Cost
TMC is Total Material Cost

To achieve Exemplary performance for MRc4

TRC ? (0.3) TMC

look at this graphic representation

‘————’————’————-’
(0)TMC (0.3)TMC (0.6)TMC (1)TMC
0% 30% 60% 100%

TRC will ALWAYS satisfy this:

0 ?TRC?(0.3)TMC (to comply Exemplary Performance)

but we all know that TRC= PostC + (0.5 x PreC)

where:

PostC is Post-Consumer Content Cost
PreC is Pre-Consumer Content Cost

then

0 ?PostC + (0.5 x PreC)?(0.3)TMC

wich means:

PostC PreC
‘——+—–’——-+—-’————-’
(0)TMC (0.3)TMC (0.6)TMC (1)TMC
0% 30% 60% 100%

0?PostC?(0.3)TMC (any percentage between zero and 30% of TMC )

and

0?0.5 x PreC?0.3TMC equivalent to

0? PreC ? 0.6TMC (any percentage between zero and 60% of TMC)

I am just trying to probe you that:

PostC DOES NOT REPRESENT 20% of TMC
PreC DOES NOT REPRESENT 10% of TMC

Therefore the answer (20% post-consumer) + (10% pre-consumer) is ONE possibility of combination of the percentages among a set of many possible combinations!

Each credit is differnt.

Regarding Rookwood’s comment above, this is just how it goes, and I think it may be because it’s a lot easier to deal with the points this way and have projects choose a few specialities in order to achieve exemplary performance rather than try to attempt a whole bunch to reach a certain point threshold.

That is actually incorrect. Take for instance the WIMSEE chart:

http://www.intheleed.com/wimsee-is-your-friend/

You’ll see that the points possible add up to 69 points total, which we all know is the maximum number of points possible for the top of the platinum rating.

If you look at the WE credit, which says that you can receive 5 points max, which are from: 1.1, 1.2, 2, 3.1 & 3.2. That’s 5 total points not including the exemplary performance credits.

The exemplary performance credits can only be used up to 4 times in ID1.1, ID1.2, ID1.3 & ID1.4. OR, you can use an above and beyond “innovation in design” method, such as making a part of the project a learning center for green and sustainable design, to fulfill credits ID 1.1-1.4.

If we included all of the exemplary points possible, that would be 69+19ish which is 88 points, which we know is not true.

Again, the ID credits 1.1 through 1.4 are reserved to fulfill the exemplary performance option of other credits AND/OR innovation and design methods that the project team goes above and beyond for that is not included in any credits.

The first four innovation in design (ID) credits are set aside for exceptional project innovations that are not covered in the other categories, that show a substantial and quantifiable impact on the project’s effect on the environment.

So I think that you can get up to four of these ID points as well as up to all 19 of these exemplary performance points, but it would be extremely difficult.

The problem I believe I am having is trying to understand why LEED is providing all these areas where the project can earn additional points for going above a “baseline”, then limiting the number that can be claimed.

It seems to me that this is counterproductive to the USGBC/LEED mantra. Why even have the ID c1 section for exemplary performance when performance is addressed under the general rating system? I understand the other areas available for ID credits, but this logic was confusing to me, unless it is offered as bonus points.

You can only earn up to 4 (of the 19 or whatever possible Exemplary Points available) which will be counted toward certification through ID Credit 1.1 through 1.4.

Here is another post regarding this matter:

http://www.intheleed.com/leed-innovation-in-design-credits/

Let us know if it’s not clear still. Thanks and good luck!

If there are 19 (or whatever) possible Exemplary Points available, can you only use the 4 that you may select for ID credits? Or do you get to count them again, sort of as a bonus?

In terms of points, it is specifically stated that only up to four independent sustainability measures may be applied to ID credits (Last sentence of LEED NC 2.2 page 399).