Comments on: Indoor Environmental Air Quality 4.2 – Low Emitting Materials – Paints & Coatings

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By: Allison

Allison — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 01:27:01 +0000

I’m having trouble separating “sealers” between SCAQMD 1113 (c4.2) and SCAQMD 1168 (4.1). WHenever sealer or sealant is mentioned in a question, I don’t know which it applies to. Any tips?

By: Jim

Jim — Fri, 15 May 2009 12:52:26 +0000

The VOC budget is a weighted calculation in which you list all the total theoretical permitted VOCs by quantity, such as 50 gallons @ 150 grams/Liter. Then you list all the actual VOCs by quantity, such as 50 gallons @ 113 grams/Liter. Add totals of each list. If the total theoretical exceeds the total actual, you still earn the credit. You will need to include a copy of your VOC budget with the submittal (upload it and reference it in the template).

By: Jessie

Jessie — Sun, 22 Mar 2009 23:19:43 +0000

re- VOC BUDGET CASE
Cassi (or whomever)
I’ve had a look at the VOC budget page after your useful discussion above- I wonder if you can help me figure out, what is the BASELINE VOC used in the calculation? Is it the GS standard? Or some other baseline? How does one determine what it should be? thanks

By: Karl Lee

Karl Lee — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 21:49:54 +0000

The Green Seal website says GC-3 is superseded by the new GS-11 which I assume has not made it into the LEED AP exam. I am noticing more than a few inconsistencies with the study materials and within LEED documents over the past few years.
I hope they’ve been taking out these grey area questions.

By: Cassi

Cassi — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:05:49 +0000

Joy-

I have the actual pg # now. It’s pg 356 of the supplemental information. The paragraph title reads “VOC BUDGETS”. Hope this helps!

By: Joy

Joy — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 02:27:28 +0000

Thanks so much. I will look at that!

By: Cassi

Cassi — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 21:22:01 +0000

The answer is D; I dont have my reference book on hand but if you read the additional info for all EQc4 (the couple of pages after the info on EQc4.4, its on a left column of a left pg for LEED NC Vs 2.2 edition 3. … haha I can see it in my head) But basically there is a paragraph that tells you what to do if you accidently paint a wall w/ high VOC paint and it tells you not to do anything just add it in your calculations.

I dont know if this is any help; when I have the reference manual in front of me I will give you exact info…

By: Joy

Joy — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 20:50:24 +0000

Building green test, # 79.
A specialized coating is needed for encapsulating a hazardous material encountered in building reuse, that is impractical to remove from the building. The coating is not available in a low-voc formulation. The project team should take what approach to EQc4.2, Low-emitting Materials? Choose 1

A. Not attempt credit documentation

B. Add several coats of low-VOC sealant over the specialized coating to encapsulate the noncomplying coating

C.Submit a CIR
D. Factor the VOC emissions into the design-case budget.

Answer is given as D.. what design-case budge? Don’t you either get the point or not. Please help explain.

By: Cassi

Cassi — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 14:34:07 +0000

Thanks yuki-

I can’t believe how many mistakes the reference manual has. Kinda seems unfair to test on any of the mistakes.

By: yuki

yuki — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 05:08:49 +0000

Cassi,

Per greenseal website, it is GC-03. You can check it out at: ttp://www.greenseal.org/certification/standards/anti-corrosivepaints.cfm

It is the only odd-ball from the green seal series. and yes, the reference guide and other LEED study sources have it mixed up occassionally. The test I took stated GC-03 as well at prom3tric.

Hope this helps.

By: Cassi

Cassi — Sun, 08 Mar 2009 19:02:49 +0000

GS-03 is correct! Is Green Seal(GS)-03

By: mizuchaud

mizuchaud — Sun, 08 Mar 2009 17:35:39 +0000

I’d like to reiterate that it is GC-03.
Pat, your errata image still has GS-03.

By: akoak

akoak — Sat, 28 Feb 2009 15:20:18 +0000

Cassi – good one- I like this tip! thanks!

By: Cassi

Cassi — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 21:56:08 +0000

I remember SCAQMD is a referenced standard for EQc4.1 and EQc4.2 b/c SCAQMD reminds me of the word SQUID. We all know that a SQUID squirts ink. Ink helps me think of Adhesive/Sealants or Paints/Coatings thus connecting me to the appropriate credit.

Hope this helps someone else…

By: Buddy

Buddy — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 19:09:51 +0000

Thank You Jay. I thought it was GC-03 but just wanted to make sure.

Yeah you would think they would have all the errors out by the third edition.

By: Jay

Jay — Fri, 27 Feb 2009 18:10:19 +0000

Its GC-03. The greenseal website calls it that, and the reference guide summary of referenced standards calls it that. There is no ‘GS-03′ document that has anything to do with anti-corrosives. There is a typo on the rating system sheet.

There’s actually quite a few embarrassing typos in the LEED NC2.2 reference guide… even after the 3rd errata. You’d think they would have proof-read it a little more thoroughly considering the amount of detailed knowledge they are testing.

By: Buddy

Buddy — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 20:46:33 +0000

I did not see the final answer to the question about if the standard is GC-03 or GS-03. Anyone know?

By: Pat

Pat — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 00:19:53 +0000

Thanks Matt, I appreciate your attention to detail. I’ve updated the information for everyone here to see! Thanks!

By: matt

matt — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:07:03 +0000

Pat, I noticed that SMAQMD is referenced when it is supposed to be Squack-Doc (it rhymes, that’s how I remember) SCAQMD [not SmAQMD].

By: Gary

Gary — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:29:19 +0000

Valeria,

Thanks. That helps. It is a lot more realistic to memorize the limits in EQ 3 than EQ 4.

Thanks again.

By: valeria

valeria — Fri, 29 Aug 2008 06:21:49 +0000

I am sorry,
later in my response, I added info about Credit EQ3. I was adding more info than you asked. sorry to confuse you.

I have taken the test and do remember in Credit 3 having to know the VOC limits and what tests to take…and when..etc
thought I would just offer that up.. Credit 4, the one you asked about,I didn’t have to know what materials had what voc limits, but you sure had to know just about everthing else!
does this help?

By: Gary

Gary — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:39:44 +0000

Valeria,

At first you said “you didn’t need to know the specific voc limits” but later, “yes, know specific voc levels.” I’m confused.

Thanks

By: valeria

valeria — Thu, 28 Aug 2008 04:16:22 +0000

I found that you didn’t need to know the specific voc limits,
but you do need to know what unit of measurements are involved,
what materials with what reference standard, and
what credit they are associated with, and
who is responsible for the submitting, and i would look at the submittal form on line on the USGBC website.

(Same deal for the refrigerant credits.)

let me offer that you have to be very clear in your head in EQ3 what happens during construction, before and after occupancy, yes, know specific voc levels, what tests are required.. flushing etc know which credit is which test….

In the

By: Gary

Gary — Wed, 27 Aug 2008 18:26:04 +0000

Does the test require one to know the specific VOC content limits (numbers)for EQ credits 4.x? Should I memorize them?

By: valeria

valeria — Wed, 13 Aug 2008 05:25:45 +0000

Thanks Matt,
I think you are right, I went to the website and asked them the question to clarify, and never got an answer.
Even though I have taken the test, and am LEED AP, I realize by still getting notices of contributions from this site shows that I studied misinformation from the reference guide, and it would be nice if the Green Seal people would dignify my question with an answer,(a professional courtesy?) There is probably a whole generation of LEED test takers who still believe it is GS03….so thanks again!
courtesy?

By: matt

matt — Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:37:44 +0000

Anti-Corrosive Paints (GC-03)
is the first result that comes up from the google search ‘green seal standard gc’.

A search for gs-03 is fairly spotty, I think it’s safe to assume gc is the standard for Anti-Corrosive Paints referenced.

By: valeria

valeria — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 06:52:21 +0000

cut sheets are submitted, I believe, when asked in the random credit audits in the final review. The paper work needs to be collected but not all gets actually seen in the reviews.

I asked the question whether GC or GS to the Green Seal website, No answer… I think it IS GC, nice if it could be confirmed… if they think it is important to ask this as a question, it needs to be clarified!

By: cici

cici — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 03:27:26 +0000

when should cut-sheet to be submitted?

By: valeria

valeria — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 04:55:00 +0000

oh, for real?On the Green Seal Website itself! I thought it was referring to
Green Seal: GS _G reen _S eal, no?

What about GS11 and GS36?

Could it be a giant typo or errata on the errata???

I would love a clarification too!

By: gust.sara

gust.sara — Mon, 14 Jul 2008 16:40:41 +0000

Hi Pat..
Thnx a lot for ur website…
I was confused about the
Green Seal standard Anti-Corrosive and Anti-Rust Paints: GS-03.
The erratas somewhr say its GC-03 & not GS-03..
Also the green seal website says its GC-03..
but all other resources for leed puporses say GS-03..Can u pls clarify with the point of exam what to follow.
Thnx in advance